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The Liar’s Walk Detecting Deception with Gait and Gesture


Jack Clark: Q: How is the cultivation of impact-aware, ethical, sensitive research in AI going? A: The Liar's Walk: Detecting Deception with Gait and Gesture

41 replies, 421 likes

Ben Collins: This is a really good example of really rich tech dudes creating more ways to profile people and put them in danger through pseudoscience under the guise of helping society. These kinds of things are the real dystopian future threat, not angry sentient robots with bazookas.

13 replies, 213 likes

Asher Wolf: Yeah, this is fucking abelist and offensive as hell. My gait is affected by my genetic condition. Assuming how I walk implies anything about my character is utter bullshit

6 replies, 96 likes

Reginald Braithwaite: I’ll wager $50 that implementations of technology like this provide a disproportionate number of false positives for POC and non-Europeans in general.

8 replies, 68 likes

Sam Biddle: this kind of "research" is literally dangerous to the extent that it could easily be co-opted by any company that might want to claim a scientific/techological basis for detecting "suspicious behavior" (I personally can't think of any........)

4 replies, 56 likes

[cam.]: ahhhhhhhhh junk science.

1 replies, 52 likes

Ali Breland: there are decades worth of academics warning us about how technology will reify bias and discrimination and then cloak it in a mask of faux objectivity but there's somehow a bunch of other people who are excited about creating tools that will be used to harass minorities

2 replies, 51 likes

#!/usr/bin/bash_the_fash: aw hell yeah I can't wait to get harassed by security or police because my posture is deemed "suspicious" by some algorithm

5 replies, 50 likes

LindyMan (99%): Facial recognition is mostly a smokescreen. The real stuff is in gait. Been talking about this for years. Lindy.

2 replies, 40 likes

Féintist: Bruh I got scoliosis

5 replies, 39 likes

the facebook hater: This is so stupid

4 replies, 31 likes

Ken Norton: Looking forward to being detained for twelve hours at an airport because you tweaked your back playing hoops?

2 replies, 29 likes

Evil Forces Balding: Interesting paper and notes. Think about this: AI is trying to figure out if you are lying by how you walk

16 replies, 28 likes

Gillian Hadfield: Good catch by @jackclarkSF.The weakness of research design in AI is a real problem--too many folks *believe* AI results uncritically.Machine trained to detect deceptive gaits of students ASKED to walk around "deceptively". Oy. Would never make it past social science referees

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hilbert's infinite airbnb: very interested in exactly how bad the performance of this model turns out in future work given that the methods here involved explicitly telling people to be inconspicuous as they picked up a wad of cash & interacted with someone wearing a pulled-up hoodie and sunglasses indoors

1 replies, 21 likes

Brian Sonenstein: another good example of how new tech lets prosecutors and police rebrand the very same hokum that they've used for decades to imprison people. it invariably gets pointed out as flawed and made-up in the end, after enormous damage has already been done

0 replies, 19 likes

Ethan Zuckerman: FFS

3 replies, 18 likes

sigfig: should have known not to walk into an airport with those lying hips

0 replies, 16 likes

Jack Clark: Ethical responsiveness in AI research: Following significant publicity, the authors of this paper have updated it to 'v2' on arXiv with a richer discussion of limitations. This feels like a more accurate framing of the issues with the approach.

0 replies, 14 likes

Kay Whitlock: The new criminalizing blather: data-driven deep neural algorithm for detecting deceptive walking behavior. What could possibly go wrong?

3 replies, 13 likes

Wolfie Christl: The ministry of silly AI research proudly presents: A "data-driven deep neural algorithm for detecting deceptive walking behavior using nonverbal cues like gaits and gestures": [via @lukOlejnik]

1 replies, 12 likes

Wolfie Christl: Attention! Don't walk beyond the norm #irresponsible #bs

1 replies, 8 likes

Lukasz Olejnik: Left: "AI" algorithm infering "criminal behavior" from facial expressions ( Right: "AI" algorithm detection "deception" based on gait (type of walking What's lacking: is it even fair?

0 replies, 7 likes

Mike Murphy: is the future going to be like Dune where i have to walk a certain way to not freak out the worms (the worms being the state AI panopticon in this case)

3 replies, 7 likes

Lindsey Barrett:

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🌐IPM 🎄🎅🏿⛄️🎁🕎❄: love too measure gait with calipers

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Armine Yalnizyan: Thread, also related to #SurveillanceNation Couldn't the gait and gesture of "deceptive" be associated with people who are feeling blue, or lack confidence; and "natural" associated with confidence found in socio/psychopaths? This is garbage technology....with huge consequences.

1 replies, 5 likes

Sifu Tweety Fish -= cDc =-: In addition to all the other problems with this — there are many — pose as a feature set for this kind of research is so dumb, and is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of psychology research from decades ago

1 replies, 5 likes

James O'Leary: @PaulSkallas gait continues to be latched onto by modern magicians yet mostly unknown to the hoi polloi

1 replies, 4 likes

#HandsOffBolivia: Yay! More junkscience for the surveillance state! Don't glance up and to the left while you have a "deceptive gait," or you're off to Gitmo!

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Lukasz Olejnik: With all due respect but AI research too often starts to look like a creepy sh*tshow.

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Hugh Handeyside: This is dangerous. The people developing these kinds of tools -- which are of highly questionable validity -- should think carefully about how they will be used and who will be victimized by them.

1 replies, 3 likes

Colin Goltra: From this one image I am just going to assume that AIs are being built to primarily trust confident men

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Şerife (Sherry) Wong: You always have a friend if you have phrenology!

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Governor of Tasteville: can't wait to be tackled by a SWAT team because my stroke causes me to favor my right leg slightly

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Internet Ethics: #ethics #tech #AI #research #highered

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I'm actually at capacity: the ministry of deceptive walks

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🎅 LTG 🎄:

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Stroppycow: "ableism, but make it tech" That shit is really getting tiresome. Please hire more diverse staff, preferably at a level where they can be heard when they say "step away from the dangerous project".

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Bruno Philipe: How many times can shitty people reinvent phrenology?

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Ruth C: Apparently I missed "telling if you are a liar by your walk" 💩💩💩

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